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Dec 29, 2012 11:00am PST
on it because come midnight monday if lawmakers have not found the fiscal cliff solution you're going to hear a whole heck of a lot of noise. let's get straight to washington. nbc's kristen welker at the white house and luke russert is tracking developments at capitol hill and nbc news senior political editor mark murray is here to break it down for us from the washington bureau. we will start with kristen. last we heard, kristen welker, the president came out to report that he is modestly optimistic. has the rhetoric changed at all today? >> reporter: it has changed a little bit. the president is still modestly optimistic, but i just spoke with a democratic source who tells me at this hour a deal is looking doubtful. of course, we want to underscore the fact that these negotiations are very fluid so that characterization could change at any moment, but it seems as though the discussions going on behind the scenes right now have yet to bear fruit and right now we do have the focus on the senate. majority leader reid and mitch mcconnell trying to hammer out a deal that would, to some extent ex
MSNBC
Dec 27, 2012 11:00am PST
advantage to waiting to go off the fiscal cliff and coming back in january. the house speaker john boehner may have more flexibility as we're just saying. so that's one plus and democrats also will have a strengthened position in the congress come january. >> if republicans wait until the start of the new congress they can say, you know what? we voted to lower taxes. >> exactly. >> they just went up. >> i want to end with you here because we spend a lot of time talking about the fiscal cliff and the fact of the matter is the sequestration is fazed in. >> right. >> when you start talking about some of these taxes, whether it's the ending of unemployment insurance -- >> yeah. >> whether it's the payroll tax holiday going away, you start talking about an immediate impact for millions of families in this country. >> part of david's spoipoint is there's two to three-month wriggle room and shifting resources to unemployment insurance to keeping marginal tax rates unchanged, you know, for the next few months. at some point, look, they won't be able to do that. i would say it's unlikely wow won't
MSNBC
Dec 27, 2012 10:00am PST
of the fiscal cliff, many members of the house aren't even in washington. they're waiting on a call from john boehner to proceed to action. the house leadership is calling on the republican leadership to come to work and stop stonewalling every effort to get the job done, including that taxes are not raced on tens of millions of middle class families. the house does come babb, it's an open question as to whether or not john boehner has the power to muster up the votes. with me now, jonathan allen, senior washington correspondent for politoco. he recently wrote about the pushback congressman boehner is getting from those that had their committee assignments stripped. >> hello. i'm doing well. >> we just heard over the break that harry reid is denying this scott brown tweet and the president is moving forward on a new plan. the gop says there's a new plan moving forward on the fiscal cliff. harry reid says there's not. seems to me more of the same ping-pong we've had over the last few days. >> were no closer to steering away from the cliff. we are much closer to the cliff. the president made a
MSNBC
Dec 26, 2012 10:00am PST
have to work tomorrow, presumably on the fiscal cliff, should the house republicans, the leadership, call that body back into session? >> well, i think speaker boehner will be in on the negotiations, and he will know when something might go through the senate, and he will certainly call the house in time to address this. they are prepared to go back, but right now, the action is in the senate, and i know that we're all trying to come up with and talk to our colleagues about some kind of way to avoid this massive increase in taxes that would occur if we don't act. and the things that are going on beneath the surface, i think, are important in the senate side, and i know the speaker will call them back when it's necessary. >> on a different issue, you're from a border state, you're, obviously, retiring soon. immigration, it's something that your party tried to accomplish under george w. bush, was not able to. as someone who can sort of speak freely about it, what's going to need to happen -- what's going to need to be seen from republicans and democrats for that to move forward in any
MSNBC
Dec 31, 2012 10:00am PST
is the house republican conference now in their mentality on making a deal on the fiscal cliff, and is there reason for optimism if something does get produced from the senate sometime today? >> you know, i think there is reason for optimism, first of all, because, chris, you have to remember, we actually passed as part of our budget in the spring an alternative to this possess. we did another such bill in august, and then before we left prayer to plan b, we passed a third bill, so we're glad to see the senate move, and when they do, we'll have something to sink our teeth into. we might not necessarily accept it as-is. there will be some amending, i suppose, lots of debate, but i think that the house is ready to act. the difference between a senate proposal now and plan b last week is that this time we will not need to pass it only on republican votes. we'll have democrats who will be moving forward, and so i think you'll get a vote. >> let me follow-up on that, because i think it's an important point. john boehner's speakership took a hit. you can debate how big or how small.
MSNBC
Dec 26, 2012 5:00pm PST
reading in part, the house has acted on two bills which collectively would avert the entire fiscal cliff if enacted. those bills await action by the senate if the senate will not approve and send them to the president to be signed into law in their current form. they must be amended and returned to the house. the house will take this action on whatever the senate can pass, but the senate must first act. the house has passed bills that would never pass the senate. speaker boehner's position is a joke. senate majority leader harry reid responded, house republicans pushed middle class families closer to the blip by wasting an entire week with their incompetent plan b stunt no further legislation can move through the senate until republicans drop their knee jerk obstruction. the house is literally phoning it in, tomorrow's conference call will reportedly include the entire caucus, not just republican leadership, the irony is that if we go over the cliff, the president will get whatever he wants on texas, and there's been a growing acknowledgement of this by some house and senate republicans.
MSNBC
Dec 26, 2012 8:00pm PST
, the nation will go over the fiscal cliff in a little more than five days and house republicans are doing nothing more than posturing. president obama is flying back to washington tonight from his christmas vacation in hawaii to make one last attempt to get a deal before midnight new year's eve. the senate is returning and will be in session tomorrow for the same purpose. senate majority leader harry reid is trying to determine what kind of bill he can get through the senate with limited republican support. meanwhile, governor neil abercrombie of hawaii tonight announced that lieutenant governor brian schatz is as fit to feel the seat of the passed senator daniel inouye. he will leave hawaii for washington tonight and is expected to be sworn in sometime tomorrow afternoon. the democrats are wasting no time in the event harry reid needs the vote to avert the fiscal cliff. but the house? a different story. speaker john boehner held a conference call with republican leadership today, and basically decided to do nothing. there are no immediate plans to return to washington. even as that decis
MSNBC
Dec 28, 2012 11:00am PST
an hour away now from the late es effort to avert the so-called fiscal cliff. the three-way stare down between the white house, the senate, the congress moves to pennsylvania avenue. president obama meeting behind closed doors with house speaker boehner, senate majority leader harry reid and senate minority leader mitch mcconnell talking about doing something to keep more than trillion dollars in tax increases and cuts from taking effect next week. also joining that party today, america's happy warrior. vice president joe biden will be there. while some appear ready to compromise others are still ducking, dodging, trying to dump the blame elsewhere. >> we all have our ideas and in the senate, you're right. we probably another 40, 50, 60 of saying that we're ready to both raise revenues and control entitlements. when's the missing ingredient? it is presidential leadership. >> i think in the end we'll get a deal. the question is the timing. >> am hopeful there will be a deal that avoids the worst parts of the fiscal cliff, namely taxes going up on middle class people. >> it's pretty appa
MSNBC
Dec 27, 2012 7:00pm PST
manure around here. >> this isn't school house rock. >> the fiscal cliff. whatever. >> there is barely 00 hours. >> the last minute was before christmas. >> what is going on here? is. >> how come there is no sense of urgency. >> the entire house coming back sunday night. >> how is john boehner going to get the votes. he couldn't get the votes for his plan b. >> a week ago we were closer than we have been before. >> do they presume the voters are that dumb? >> they passed it. >> they did it noing that they are unable to make deals on anything. >> how about complete chaos? >> there ought to be a new rule in congress. >> you cannot create anymore artificial crisis. >> tim geithner wrote a letter to congress. we are going to hit the debt ceiling. it never ends. >> happy new year's america. ♪ 29 and a half hours that is how long congress will have to avoid going over the fiscal curve on sunday night. >> if we go over the cliff, mr. president, the house of representatives as we speak with four days left after today with the first of the year, aren't here. i can't mamg they are out wherever th
MSNBC
Dec 27, 2012 1:00pm PST
left to avert the fiscal cliff. joining me now from the white house is nbc's correspondent peter alexander. peter, we have a man and his dog roaming around that white house. what can you tell me about the conflicting reports that the president will be meeting with congressional leaders, boehner, mcconnell, reid, and pelosi tomorrow? >> reporter: that's the most festive image we have seen come from washington, d.c., is the president with his cute dog outside the rose garden, but frankly, karen, the political paralysis still exists here right now. there were reports earlier today that you noted coming from the hill, scott brown among others saying the white house was sending up a new proposal. the white house says that's certainly not the case. there were reports the white house was inviting all four congressional leaders here to the white house for a private meeting tomorrow to try to push this thing through to avert the fiscal cliff. the white house says as of this moment there is no meeting scheduled for tomorrow. we sort of remained where we were when the president first arrive
MSNBC
Dec 31, 2012 8:00am PST
. >>> about 12 1/2 hours and counting now until we could fall off the so-called fiscal cliff. the house and senate are both in session. there are reports of progress in reaching a deal there. here is senator majority leader harry reid in just the past half hour. >> there are a number of issues on which the two sides are still apart and negotiations are continuing as i speak. whether or not we reach an agreement in the short time we have left we'll need cooperation on both sides to prevent taxes going up tomorrow for every family in america. >> joining me live right now is democratic congressman steve israel of new york, who is chairman of the democratic congressional campaign committee. a lot happening there, congressman. thanks for speaking with us. just to get some details we just got handed to us from kelly o'donnell, that is that in the latest deal in terms of the details, the taxes that are being discussed, regardless of the rate for a moment, they would be permanent and would not have a sunset provision. again, the progress is that they have come up with some understanding of an i
MSNBC
Dec 27, 2012 6:00am PST
. the house had two bills that collectively can avert the entire fiscal cliff if enacted. those bills await action by the senate. >> the classic ping pong gridlock and no way out. >> it's important to know how far we have come in the last seven days. a week ago we were closer than we had seen before on a particular deal. john boehner made a big concession allowing tax cuts to rise on income over a million dollars. president obama countered with a big concession and saying that that should be $400,000 and have fixes to social security on costs of living adjustments on that. what ended up happening? john boehner retreated their plan b that mike viquiera was talking about that was unable to pass and now we are in the stalemate we are in now. we were closer than before. >> you touch on a good point. that's lost now in the media. we are going-over the cliff. last week they are $450 billion away from a deal. that's less than 1% of the federal spending over the next decade. in d.c. terms, 400 billion seems like a lot. that's a drop in the bucket in d.c. terms. it's amazing that small of a number k
MSNBC
Dec 26, 2012 1:00pm PST
the first fiscal cliff. aloha means good-bye for the president as he packs bound for the white house tonight. the president cutting short his vacation leaving michelle and the girls behind as he gets back to work to try to prevent tax increases and spending cuts due to begin next week. there's just one problem. it appears there would be no house republicans to help hammer out a deal. the gop leadership has not yet called their members back to d.c. and will not be in session tomorrow for legislative business. according to one gop aide, they felt it's up to the democrats to act now. so the christmas spirit has not softened actions. but what has softened? customer confidence. in the last week gallup found the drop in the likelihood congress will come to a deal. also holiday spending hit its lowest rate since the 2008 recession. while the president said before he left for hawaii that he said he hoped the holiday would give them a chance to cool off and reach an agreement, it appears republicans would prefer to stay home for the holidays. merry christmas, everybody. for more on this, joining us n
MSNBC
Dec 31, 2012 1:00pm PST
in the house tonight, and according to his sources, the u.s. will go over the fiscal cliff. what's your reaction to that? have you heard that -- >> we can confirm that. >> i love john harwood, but luke and i have been reporting the same thing, jonathan, so there. >> okay. so we're going over the cliff? >> apparently. that's the bad news. the good news is, the parameters of a deal are definitely there. as you described, jonathan, the sticking point remains this so-called trigger, the sequester. remember, they agreed upon it last summer in july and august of 2011 when they came to that big debt ceiling deal. if there were no decision on how to cut government spending by now, these draconian cuts, indiscriminate across the board to defense half of it, $500 billion in domestic programs, the other half of it, the other $500 billion would go into effect. and now some want to have that delayed. they want to have it put off. the house of representatives, the leadership there is saying absolutely no way. there are ironies that abound all along here in these negotiations, and a lot of what you se
MSNBC
Dec 28, 2012 2:30am PST
at the white house today to try to reach a deal on the fiscal cliff. in the meantime, harry reid refers to john boehner's leadership as a dictatorship. not helpful. >>> but first, to your top stories this morning -- retired general norman schwarzkopf died thursday at his home in tampa, florida, he's credited with devising the plan that drove saddam hussein's forces out of kuwait in 1991. known as stormin' norman for his strong personality. >>> the general said that he did agree with president george h.w. bush's decision not to follow saddam's decision into baghdad. >> ladies and gentlemen, when we here, we were 150 miles away from baghdad and there's nobody between us and bagsd. if our intention to take iraq, to destroy the country, if it had been our intention to overrun the country, we could have done it unopposed from this position at that time. >> schwarzkopf was honored for his service with the medal of freedom. queen elizabeth even awarded him with a knight hood. >>> former president george h.w. bush praised his leadership yesterday. general schwarzkopf is survived by his wife and three k
MSNBC
Dec 29, 2012 2:00am PST
about in the fiscal cliff, and the debt e creeling that tim geithner said that we would have to raise any day now, and is this the next couple of months in terms of the debate? does the white house have a strategy of dealing with both in the next phase? >> well, they are quite clear that there's probably just too much at this point to put that in this initial package and specifically the debt ceiling, and saying there is no way to address that right now. they know that is the next big hurdle they are going to have to face once they deal with the immediate issue of the tax hikes and spending cuts, so i believe that you are absolutely right. in terms of the strategy f they have one, they have not revealed the details about that quite yet. president obama today, and what i thought was interesting is using the power of the bully pulpit to put pressure on congress to get this basic deal done that he is calling for, and richard, one of the things that he said at the end of the remarks is that essentially this is not how the american people do business and just to remind you that ordinary fo
MSNBC
Dec 28, 2012 1:00pm PST
itlowt.com. [ laughs ] hey! >>> talks on the fiscal cliff are still continuing at the white house at this time. now, this might be first big battle in president obama's second term, but there is no shortage of tough battles beyond it. and so much to do and so little time, so little political capital to use to fight those battles. so what is a second-term president to do in if you ask progressive supporters, they might offer an agenda that builds on big victories from the past year, a new push on comprehensive immigration reform, the health care implementation, women's votes, voting rights and the rights of the lgbt community. many of these are fights where the president has largely been absent. take guns or the environment, for example. and let's not forget about the rest of the world where any number of foreign policy entanglements could overwhelm the most carefully laid plans. let's bring in dana milbank and msnbc contributor jonathan capehart also of the "washington post" to help me sort out how does a man get it done in the second term? dana, you know, they say that the second term a president
MSNBC
Dec 27, 2012 7:00am PST
with very big issues. in both houses of congress, if we get through this fiscal cliff and get to january, people will rightfully ask is there a better way to do this? since we seem to have a majority in both chambers that would like to solve the problem, but procedurally we're not getting to an answer. >> soon to be senator tim scott takes the oath next week, the only african-american senator, it highlights an interesting dichotomy. republicans have more minorities in the senate than democrats, while the party itself struggles with minority voters. >> i think you hit the nail on the head. clearly the republicans are having a major problem reaching out not just to people of color, but to women and so forth. i think what the republican party is trying to do is say, you know what? we have to do a better job. tim scott is a conservative from south carolina and also he's a earl if legislator in terms of being in the house of representatives, so it's perfect sense for him to go to the senate. we also see to a certain degree the first latino from texas, ted cruz, coming into the senate as well.
MSNBC
Dec 27, 2012 8:00am PST
talk less and legislate more. the house has already passed legislation to avoid the entire fiscal cliff. >>> the president gets set to land in washington this hour. there's new word that the president has called all four congressional leaders. reid, mcconnell, boehner and pelosi. . joining me to talk more, we have peter alexander standing by at the white house as well as nbc's mike viqueira on capitol hill. some verbal smackdown, basically flipping the lights back on and harry reid taking to the floor to eviscerate speaker boehner. >> the sad part is you often seen the floor opened that way. mitch mcconnell being later today. i'm sure we'll hear something later. to hear it two days after christmas and a matter of days before we go through the fiscal cliff, obviously not encouraging. harry reid says time is running hout. he doesn't know if they could go through the legislative hurdles. if they have the votes around here, they can legislate the sky is green and the grass is blue. that's not an issue. what harry reid is really saying is mitch mcconnell, get on board, don't try to filibuste
MSNBC
Dec 24, 2012 10:00am PST
, but still continuing to keep tabs on the fiscal cliff negotiations, correct? >> he is. white house officials describe this as a working vacation. i think there have been maybe a few conversations at the staff level about the fiscal cliff, but the reality is, thomas, the negotiations have largely stalled. you remember president obama on friday urging lawmakers to take this time off to really cool off, come back later this week with a appreciate perspective. i think you're going to see the hard work, the real negotiations resume when lawmakers go back into session after the christmas holiday. now, last week it seemed as though president obama, house speaker john boehner were close to getting some sort of a grand bargain that would have addressed tax reform as well as deficit reduction. those talks, of course, fell apart. house speaker john boehner tried to get an alternative plan through the house. that didn't work out. now the focus shifts to the senate. senate majority leader harry reid, minority leader mitch mcconnell will have to try to hammer out some sort of a compromise to avoid going o
MSNBC
Dec 31, 2012 7:00am PST
the catastrophic consequences of going over the fiscal cliff, you see people now at the white house, on the hill, in both parties talking about it as a slope, not a cliff. that there will be a deal early in the new year if not one by new year's eve. so i think clearly both sides think it is now likely that we'll go over the cliff and that they want to argue it's not so catastrophic. in fact, as you say, especially for a liberal democrats they see some advantages to going over the cliff, blaming republicans and starting with kind of hitting the reset button when it comes to this debate. >> well, you had apparently democrats giving in on the estate tax. yesterday we saw that the republicans withdrew their demands on social security but now you have i mean what is arguably a much more difficult negotiation which is over concessions on the sequester. you know, if this doesn't get done is that what the holdup is going to be? or is it just going to be a whole myriad of things? >> i think it would be a myriad of things but certainly a sequester is a concern for members of both parties. you know, the pr
MSNBC
Dec 30, 2012 12:00pm PST
the president's plan then we can avoid the fiscal cliff. they won't allow a vote in the house on the president's proposal. we haven't had a vote on his plan. >> thank you, congressman for being here with us today. >> thank you. >>> coming up in our war room finger pointing is coming from all sides. these fiscal cliff negotiations. which side will likely face the bulk of the blame if there is no deal. [ male announcer ] it's that time of year again. time for citi price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest price. and if it finds one, you get refunded the difference. just use your citi card and register your purchase online. have a super sparkly day! ok. [ male announcer ] now all you need is a magic carriage. citi price rewind. start saving at citi.com/pricerewind. citi price rewind. with a new project in mind, some how-to knowledge to give us an new years clutter is no match for someone with big ideas. edge, and more savings down every aisle. it only
MSNBC
Dec 29, 2012 9:00am PST
, negotiate, try to come up with something on a smaller scale anyway to get us past this fiscal cliff to make sure the average or typical american family of four's taxes don't go up by $2200 next week when you throw all of it together. we are tolded to that there have been telephone calls, e-mails back and forth at the staff level throughout the course of the evening and into this morning perhaps later today we will have a face-to-face meeting but with staff, not with the principals involved. not with the the senators involved. we don't expect to see them in the capitoled today at all. can they agree on a level here. and if mitch mcconnell the republican leader can bring along enough republicans to have it pass the senate and then really put the onus on john boehner. and that's one of the ifs and bus about this. of course we're talk about mud night new year's eve, monday into tuesday for the deadline here. the world is not going to come to an end, t.j., if they go into tuesday and have to do it then. but certainly they are under the gun. there's a lot at stake here. a lot of people are shake
MSNBC
Dec 28, 2012 2:00am PST
better. >>> as those fiscal cliff worries become mo, the stocks skidded on thursday. on news that house members will return to negotiations on sunday evening. the latest penning home sales data comes out at 9:00. >>> the dairy industry is calling it the milk cliff. if congress doesn't approve a farm bill, the price of milk could skyrocket from 3.65 to as much as 8. all dairy products will be affected. >>> now to another looming crisis, dock workers at more than a dozen ports across the country are threatening to walk out on the job sunday. strikes along the east coast will create a domino effect. the white house is urging an agreement as quickly as possible. >>> month will rents are on the rise. it's up 3.7% over last year. >>> travelers have attempted to carry 1500 firearms onboard airports in 2012. a separate report found that most firearms were confiscated at atlanta's heartsfield airport. >>> sea world is hoping to make a big splash by going public. it's hoping to pay down debt by going public. no word on a stock price for investing in shamu. >>> where do you get the best bang for y
MSNBC
Dec 28, 2012 6:00pm PST
, definitely going over. that whole fiscal cliff thing, where congress and the white house can't reach a deal on taxes and spending before the end of the year and they maybe get us into a recession, it's definitely happening. that was the whole point of president obama's press conference this afternoon. >> i still want to get this done. it's the right thing to do for our families, for our businesses, and for our entire economy. but the hour for immediate action is here. it is now. >> allow me a quick update here. that press conference, it came after president obama met with john boehner and nancy pelosi and harry reid and mitch mcconnell, so all the key congressional leaders. and listen to the president here. >> the american people are watching what we do here. obviously, their patience is already thin. this is deja vu all over again. america wonders why it is that in this town for some reason, you can't get stuff done in an organized timetable. why everything always has to wait until the last minute. well, we're now at the last minute. and the american people are not going to have any patien
MSNBC
Dec 29, 2012 4:00am PST
't hammer out a fiscal cliff deal. senators will be meeting throughout the day. we'll be heading to the white house from the latest from the president. now, the big three money headlines, milk money, talking about on the rise and a sales surge. we have retail and economy news. everyone talking about fiscal cliff, taxes going up. a little detail not many people talking about, but will get their attention if you say your milk prices could double, triple? >> got milk, t.j.? talking about the dairy cliff. and the conchalgressional agricultural committee will come together. the price of milk will increase. right now, a gallon of milk about $3.50. set to go up to -- get this. $8 by january. if this new man isn't implemented. part of the talks that's going on with the president. they hope this will move forward. nobody wants the price of milk to be drink up. >> farm bill, it maybe goes over their heads. but i tell somebody that $8 for a gallon, they pay attention. >> this is a farm bill they really want to concentrate on. who wants to pay $8 a gallon for milk. >> this isn't the only thi
MSNBC
Dec 30, 2012 2:00pm PST
. >> 30 hours to go until the country hits the fiscal cliff and still no deal. i'm melissa rayberger, and the white house has sent one of its top negotiators to capitol hill, but right now it's all centered on the senate, and as democrats dig in to protect social programs, republicans do the same on taxes. >> raising taxes to pay for new spending is not something that republicans believe this debate ought to be about. it ought to be about reducing the deficit and the debt, and what they are essentially suggesting is we want new taxes. we want higher taxes on people in this country to pay for new spending. >> so what happens next? with us nbc news capitol hill correspondent mike vic rah and nbc news white house correspondent kristen welker. mike, let's get started with you. what's happening right now in the senate. i understand there's an update on the chained cpi. >> reporter: they say the darkest hour right before the dawn, melissa. everybody ought to hope that's true, at least if you don't want to see your taxes go up on midnight on monday and tuesday night because everything seems
MSNBC
Dec 31, 2012 12:00pm PST
on the fiscal cliff. the senate confirmed two of the president's appointees and the house considered about a dozen bills including how to commemorate the 100th anniversary of the world war i and various aid and trade bills. here to give us an idea of what the congress is thinking is ed o'keefe. give us a run down. what has congress been working on and still need to do before this congress actually ends? >> it's kind of fascinating how these very modest measures that wouldn't get a vote gotten one because there's so much time on the clock still as they wait for the marquee legislative event of the year. there were changes to drywall standards. there was discussion there of the world war i commemoration which is coming up. two nominees confirmed over in the senate. two of obama's nominees. going back a few weeks, even just before christmas, there were some changes in policies at the tsa and screening baggage and judges confirmed and actually are some things that have gotten done but certainly not the big issues like you mentioned. certainly there's the fiscal cliff. a question of whether or
MSNBC
Dec 28, 2012 8:00am PST
the can down the road, jeff, we'll do some small deal and create another fiscal cliff to deal with this fiscal cliff. >> just let the people's housework its will. instead of handing over the keys to the most extreme elements in the house republican caucus. >> a lot of people donnell realize he is blocking a vote in the house. >> i think in the end we'll get a deal. the question is the timing. >> i am hopeful there will be a deal that avoids the worst parts of the fiscal cliff. >> i want to bring you in and say good morning to sander levin. sir, it's good to have you with me. what is your expectations or thoughts about hear that the president and vice president joe biden are calling the four congressional leaders behind closed closed doors today. >> i am hopeful. i wouldn't say i'm optimistic, but i think confidence has gone down. i think the key is whether the speaker will be the speaker of the entire house and let the matters come before us where there could be a majority of democrats and perhaps a majority of republicans, but let es speak our will and act on our will. that's
MSNBC
Dec 27, 2012 2:00pm PST
advocated his role in the fiscal cliff talks. he said it was up to the u.s. senate and the white house to do something. the sad reality is that boehner is leading a dysfunctional caucus with a vocal minority of tea partiers who can hold up the chantses for any deal. today harry reid accused boehner of caring more about his re-election as speaker than getting something done. take a listen. >> the american people i don't think understand the house of representatives is operating without the house of representatives. it's being operated with a dictatorship of the speaker. john baber seems to care more about keeping his speakership than keeping the nation on firm financial footing. >> what is boehner's game plan? does he even have one? ryan grim is washington bureau chief for "the huffington post" and glenn johnston is politics editor for boston.com. i worked on the hill for years. you cover the hill and know it. that was a very personal shot from harry reid. is it accurate to say, open question, that speaker boehner is worried about staying speaker? >> yes. he's definitely -- i think he's not w
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Dec 26, 2012 11:00am PST
notice on house votes. the potus on his way to d.c. to address fiscal cliff for the middle class with six days left to act. gop still mia. joining me now from hawaii, kristin welker. was the president expected? >> we did expect that given there was no deal on the fiscal cliff that he would have to return early from his hawaiian vacation. he will be flying out late or this evening. the first lady and the first daughters continuing his hawaiian vacation. he will find himself in a similar situation. the negotiations are largely deadlocked. just to give you a sense of how we got to where we are, if you go back to last week, it seemed like the house and speaker were getting close to getting a big deal that would have included tax reform and deficit reduction. that fell apart. house speaker john boehner tried to get his own bill through the house. he realized he didn't have enough votes for that. that fell apart as well. the ball is in the senate's court. according to an aide, senate majority leader harry read will not bring a bill to the floor unless he believes he will not have the support to
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Dec 28, 2012 10:00am PST
kind of plan to prevent a fiscal cliff dive in the new year. you guessed it. another day without a deal means more losses on wall street. look at those numbers will. 68 down for the dow. joining for the daily fix, nbc white house correspondent peter alexander. nbc's kelly o'donnell live on capitol hill. and jonathan capeheart. peter, let me start with you. there's this meeting at 3:00 p.m. at the white house between the president and congress allege leaders. any optimism there? there's some -- little bit of a trickle of maybe some sort of compromise deal with rates starting at 400,000 instead of 2 r50. how is the white house feeling about this meting coming up at 3:00? is this more important show? >> at the white house at least from the conversations we have had with aides and other members of the staff, it is pretty clear they recognize that this is a big deal. they also recognize that they think the ground rules remain the same. reporters like myself back to exactly what the president said a week ago was the fact that he wanted to extend the bush era tax cuts for those making less tha
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Dec 27, 2012 2:00am PST
will weather the storms to get back to washington today with five days left to avert the fiscal cliff, and now all eyes will be on the senate after house republicans say it's up to senate leadership to reach a deal. nbc's danielle leigh is live on capitol hill. danielle, what's the latest? >> reporter: mara, good morning. it's a new day and a new standoff. this time, house speaker john boehner is hinting he won't bring house members back to town until the senate comes up with a passable plan. as president obama leaves his tropical retreat in hawaii for a wintry washington, tension on capitol hill is on high. >> i don't see how you could hammer out any kind of a grand bargain or large plan involving tax reform and entitlement changes in a matter of days. >> reporter: serious doubt is setting in. even starbucks is getting involved, writing "come together" on its cups. speaker john boehner says he's sitting this round out after failing to get enough house republicans to support his own plan just before christmas. >> i think that boehner is being controlled, unfortunately, by the right wing. >> re
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Dec 26, 2012 9:00am PST
of americans who think congress will negotiate a deal on the fiscal cliff. that's not all, holiday spending also hit its lowest rate since the 2008 recession, which retailers are blaming on the uncertainty in washington. so where do we go from here? well, since the house failed to get a vote on the tax package last week, all eyes are on the senate. a temporary deal that would basically extend all the tax cuts for those making under a quarter million. the deal would also rescue long-term unemployment benefits and instead of addressing those automatic spending cuts we've all heard about that are set for january 1st, this temporary deal would delay them for another six months. few are optimistic this new plan, if we do go over the clifr, would work out. so what would half if we go over the cliff? the payroll tax holiday will expire on new year's day. that means most people will start paying more taxes in each paycheck. another 21 million americans would lose federal emergency unemployment benefits and those, let's remember, are people struggling the most right now. across the entire economy go
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Dec 30, 2012 5:00pm PST
. >>> meantime, the fiscal cliff stand-off in washington continues. at this late hour the senate and house of representatives both went into recess, still no deal. republican senate leader mitch mcconnell reached out to vice president joe biden to help reach an agreement. two men who have served as their party's closers, so to speak, on tough deals before. senate majority leader harry reid says he plans to have a plan up for a vote tomorrow morning. although there are serious differences on both sides. >> we're not going to have any social security cuts at this stage, it just doesn't seem appropriate. i still hold out hope we can get something done but i'm not overly optimistic but i am cautiously optimistic. >> republicans pushed back on claims by democrats that the social security benefit measurement, which is known as the chained cpi and basically would reduce the amount of money that senior citizens get under social security, was part of the republican plan. in any case, that is off the table. senator john mccain posted this on twitter, most of us agree the chained cpi is off the table
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Dec 26, 2012 12:00pm PST
in control of the house. we are focused on the fiscal cliff and whatever is going to happen with that. logistically, the time of the year. we are talking about months before there is going to be legislation that could be put on the table. what do you think could pully realistically have a chance of passing? >> i'm skeptical like you ever. i hope it plugs the loophole that they get through at the various gun shows. i hope there can be something on magazine clips. the thing i would most like to see is an attempt to do a buy back program back in 1996. if we did that and invested real money, you could -- if we overpaid for the guns we want to get off the street, that's the big problem. anything we do now at the margin will not reduce the stock. that's part of the problem. why not make it a stimulus at the same time we get guns back and reduce the inventory and the chance we will have these beings and firearms. >> it's a clever idea and a clever way to sell it. the basic point there about what a gun buy back program would do, the experience we had with the assault weapons ban is we banned
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Dec 30, 2012 4:00am PST
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Dec 29, 2012 12:00pm PST
pass a deal to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff, but is that optimism justified even if the senate can can come together and craft a deal? a very big if at this point and what are the chances that house speaker john boehner can get members of his congress to go along with the deal. joining me now perry bacon and lynn sweet. i want to start with you because i read something that you wrote an article recently in which you said basically that the rumors of the tea party's demise have been greatly exaggerated noting their key role in refusing to go along with john boehner's tax plan to raise taxes on those making more than $1 million a year. the fiscal cliff debate has illustrated then during influence of the tea party and the power of the conservative party. boehner can't guarantee that his members won't face primary challenges from the right so there's little surprise they won't follow his lead. >> mcconnell's not going agree to something that all other republicans are opposed to because he's a republican, too, and he has to worry about a primary, potentially, as well. the core of this i
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Dec 28, 2012 2:00pm PST
is holding a conference call with ceos on the status of the fiscal cliff negotiations. so maybe things will change once more again tomorrow. joining me now to discuss the business ramifications and what the markets think of all this, the editor of thegrio.com and msnbc contributor joy reid. >> hey, richard. >> hi, joy. do we also have fortune magazine's assistant, yes, excellent, managing editor, leigh gallagher. thanks for joining us, too. wall street seems to have been naive, maybe a little simplistic, about washington's ability to get the deal done. do you think they're finally waking up to the reality of what life is like in washington? >> i think that's true. and, you know, i think all of us sort of thought a month ago or six weeks ago that this was, of course, we were going to get a deal. why on earth wouldn't we get a deal? i think wall street was definitely a little bit more i don't know if the word complacent is the right word but definitely it's been a bit of a late-stage tremor that we've been feeling but we're definitely feeling them. i think this is a prelude of what could
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Dec 24, 2012 6:00am PST
, but the reality is that talks are largely deadlocked over the fiscal cliff. there have been a few conversations going on at the staff level but really the expectation is that the hard work is going to get done when lawmakers return to washington after the christmas holiday, a little bit later on this week. that's when they're going to resume negotiations in earnest. of course there had been hopes that the president and house speaker john boehner were going to get a deal done. if you looked at the beginning of last week, they were getting close to a deal it appeared but that fell apart and talks fell apart. president obama said i will accept a smaller deal as long as it doesn't allow rates for those to go up for those making $250,000 or less. over the weekend you had a few senators, including senator joe lieberman saying they believe now more than ever we may be getting closer to actually going over the fiscal cliff. that is of course hanging over the heads of a lot of americans as they enter this holiday season and also looming over this vacation the president is having. i'll give you a little
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Dec 27, 2012 2:30am PST
the rest of us. he also referenced the impending fiscal cliff, which threatens to derail the economy if a compromise isn't be reached by next week on those big, unanswered issues. with both sides locked in a standoff, house republicans are calling on senate democrats to act first. democrats aren't budging much on their demands. they want to extend tax cuts on incomes below $250,000, prolong unemployment benefits and delay those sweeping spending cuts. while many republicans oppose new taxes for anyone, senator kay bailey hutchison says she's looking for compromise, alluding to house speaker john boehner's plan "b" that was met with stiff opposition from his own party. >> i think $250,000 is too low a threshold. a lot of working people who are couples would exceed that, and i don't think we need that kind of shock to the system. however, i've talked to some of my democratic colleagues, and they are saying maybe in the $400,000 or $500,000 category we could set a benchmark. i do think it is essential that we start talking about what amount can be passed on a bipartisan basis, because y
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Dec 26, 2012 8:00am PST
, a year and a half now and trying to do a lot of things and trying to avert the fiscal cliff, no plans announced for him to return to washington. the house of representatives, their public stand, the republican leadership at any rate is that it is up to the senate to act. and the president before he left for hawaii last friday pointed out that there is a senate bill. he said he'll try to get a smaller bill and does what he said all along and raise tax rates on those couples filing jointly making more than $250,000 a year and extending unemployment benefits, something that is very important to a lot of americans who have been out of work for a very long time. one problem there, thomas. the very same bill or very near identical bill passed the senate last summer and languishing in the house of representatives. the threshold question has been and remains will the house of representatives stroet do something that a majority of republicans would go against? highly unlikely, thomas, and more and more likely to head over the cliff. for a few days, at least. >> going over the 2012 mike-isms an
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Dec 27, 2012 4:00pm PST
obvious. the prospect of reaching a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff before january 1st is very unlikely. that's putting it lightly. let's watch. >> there's 435 members of the house. what goes on in this country shouldn't be decided by the majority. it should be decided by the whole house of representatives. the speaker just has a few days left to change his mind, but i have to be very honest, mr. president, i don't know timewise how it can happen now. >> well, that was plain. this afternoon senate minority leader mitch mcconnell said he wasn't willing to offer the white house a blank check just because we're on the edge of the cliff. take a look. >> last night i told the president we'd be happy to look at whatever he proposes, but the truth is we're coming up against a hard deadline here, and as i said, this is a conversation we should have had months ago. and republicans aren't about to write a blank check for anything senate democrats put forward just because we find ourselves at the edge of the cliff. >> well, actually it's not a blank check the president has been pushing. and this i
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Dec 27, 2012 3:00am PST
in the house and the senate to come together in the fiscal cliff. we're going to be talking about the starbucks effort a little later in the show. good morning, ladies and gentlemen. >> good morning. >> good morning. it's thursday, december 27th. i'm mike barnicle in for joe, mika and willie. joining the table, we have political editor and white house correspondent for the huffington post, sam stein. >> hi. >> applause for sam. "fortune's" assistant managing editor, leigh gallagher. and the president of the council on foreign relations, author of "foreign policy begins at home: the case for putting america's house in order." and in washington, vice president and executive editor of msnbc.com and msnbc political analyst, richard wolffe. a minor round of applause for richard wolffe. >> one hand clapping. >> first of all, can anybody here come up with a synonym -- i don't care what it is -- so we don't have to employ the phrase "fiscal cliff" at all during the day? any ideas? anybody got any -- >> how about deadline? >> how about do your job. how about just do your job time. it is ridiculous. a li
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